From the context where I found it, it is apparently Vietnam in '57. Looks kinda' like a mini-Typhoon or something, or based on some Brit design. Anybody know what this is?

Looks like an SU 5

Maybe, but most images I'm finding show SU-5 as four-bladed and with bigger intake, different nose.




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a...Sukhoi_Su-5.jpg

http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/museum/su5/









...it looks more "YAK"ish, but none of these are a fit either...(lot's of interesting aircraft here, though)

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/USSR.htm

I agree and on closer inspection it looks like it has a closely cowled radial or cowl as on the Fw190D. It isn't of course. It is also possible (probable?) that it is a turbo-prop.

No idea. But looking at the SU-5 was educational for me...it's both convention reciprocating engine and jet powered, apparently. Never seen that type before either.

The lower intake cowl on the plane I posted question about looks like liquid cooling system housing, to my eyes. So I'm thinking reciprocating.

Was thinking Su-2 or Su-4, but it doesn't look like either one. Something French, maybe?

Doesn't look like the SU-2's on the link to them I posted, but no 4 is featured. Thas' the whole mystery. Whutheheckisit?

The same as a Su-2, but with another engine. Or so I've read.

It's a Morane Saulnier Vanneau trainer.

Joe

Ding! Ding! Ding!

While we're on this subject, two of the pics I stumbled across in my search took me here. Some great stuff I'd never seen before. Click sidebar for country...

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/

WARNING! Don't go here unless you've got some time on your hands....

And something more: MS.470

Wow. Will have to make some free time now


edit: The Flying Panzerfausts

You think that odd, what about this? The USHAKOV LPL FLYING SUBMARINE PROJECT

When did the Thunderbirds become inspiration for real technology, between this and the piloted A-4 rockets? (I know, its the other way around)

I don't know whats more amazing/unbelievable/stark raving mad: if German late WW2 projects if Soviet Cold War projects (thinking wing-in-ground effect things mainly, although those worked)
Oh, and Western non-Harrier VSTOL attempts also fit that mould, IMO. Even the VJ-101, a cool looking plane as it is, but completely absurd. All of this in hindsight of course.

edit: forgot there is more than one flavor of A-4

Well, it's not like the West couldn't get weird. Some Brit concepts...(haven't brought myself to look at U.S. stuff yet...)

Damn, here I was expecting some new engine variant of the Fairey Fulmar...

The B-15 looks like a Mosquito on steroids!!

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/UNITED%20STATES.htm

Composite propulsion wasn't just for the Russkies.>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR_Fireball

Don't you ever get tired of being right all the time Joe?

Did anyone see the TUPOLEV TU-2SH with 88 submachine guns in the bomb bay? Obviously of little practical use,
but the 88x900= 79200 rounds per minute has to be some kind of record!
In an ideal world (computer game) flying 50 meter above a german truck convoi......
http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesq/ru3.jpg

Instead of the 88 PPSHs they should have put there a 106mm RR for TankNet's own Air Force.
What would the plane's crew do when the drums on the SMGs were empty?

Perhaps he should change his moniker to Tanknet Pope, or something like that.

I pity the poor bastard who has to load all of those.

Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster? sound like a kitchen appliance, mind you it does look a bit like one too so that might be alright.

Obviously Tank-nets airforce can not incorporate such puny 106mm sparktastic delusions.

What we really need is the Gerat 104 356mm aircraft mounted recoilless anti-ship cannon!!!
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7595/indexek7.jpg

Combining the mobility needed for real 3D mech strikes and the 14inch (nearly 16) gun support the boots on the beaches are crying for!

I'm relieved to see that they were thinking ahead to the moment of discharge and made it recoilless!

Now thats REAL airborne firepower

Not particularly weird, but braggin' rights to one of these in your personal hangar would be neat...

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturep/am13.jpg

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesm/ae51.jpg

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesm/ae67.jpg

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesm/ae66.jpg

"Who's a pretty bird?...who's a pretty bird?"

Mmmm... Seafire Mk.46/47 Mmmm

On the oversized RCL slung under a cartoon He111, I almost wish they'd tried that one

shane

It did actually leave the drawing board, but i don`t think it made it into the air.
Pictures from the trials:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1396/g104xw3.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4933/g1043hx6.jpg

they also wanted a more modest 280mm
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5189/ju...nnone261sk1.jpg

"D.H Hornet is a pretty bird!!!"

Willing to trade my barely used soul

One Martin-Baker MB.3 for me, please. Will have to make an alternative payment plan as I currently have no soul available

For God's sake don't show that to Sparky!

Perhaps the real danger is that it just might prove his theories aren't as crackpot as we believe?

More that the proliferation of nutters though history is rather consistent...

The nutters were way better back in the day!

Back in the day they where nutcase visionaries advocating 1500 ton land battleship, 356mm recoilless rifles on aircraft, 80cm cannons and vunderwaffen allround.

Now its OLD 106mm RR, OLD M113s with new names, OLD battleships, OLD 8inch NGS concepts...

Seems our nutters are as nutty as ever, but they truly lack a vision or just any creativity.

Its a sad day for humanity

It's, you know, the "vision" thing.

Mmm, that suggest that the US is suffering a nutters gap!

Even knowing the Seafire Mk46/47's pedigree, it still requires a good imagination to see a Spit Mk1 in the family structure...

I believe we have all seen these:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/in_a...pg?t=1240036996

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1435/jxx2bo.jpg

Pictures of the supposed Chinese J-XX. I believe somebody proved them to be fakes somehow based off of a real photo, does anybody know the details.

Yes, particularly ther 47 with the chin intake, but its like



Vs



Even if you can't see the direct link - beauty is beauty and knowing the connection just makes it all the more interesting

Which is not to say I think early Spits are comparable in looks to bearded islamo-facists

shane

Yes firefox

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Nothing wrong with my Firefox, I do appreciate Argus view of proper "intake"

The question is which one is more susceptible to foreign objects getting sucked into the 'intakes'?

Um,err...I'll stick with the Mk1, thanks. You can have the later mark all to yourself!

Never seen them before, but I'd be very confident in saying that they are CGI. There is a few little things like all of the "stuff" around the aircraft is in the exact same place despite the aircraft being in a different location in the two photos, but mostly it is the sharp shadows from the window frames. Sunlight does not behave as though it comes from a point like source.

The first one is plainly a fake, the second one, a scan of a magazine article is more difficult to tell but the lines of the aircraft are in such a way as can only be described as 'drawn' or 'modelled' rather than 'made'.

Too smooth, too slick.