Paul in Saudi
Fri 12 Sep 2008 2005
I was speculating on the alleged new US weapon system. It got me conjugating...
Say you wanted to shoot someone at great distance. With a bullet, not a missile or a rocket or a shell. Say you had a vehicle-mounted system with super-duper sights, stabilization, lidars and short wavelength radars.
How far out could you gobsmack someone? What sort of round would you want to use? What would such a system broadly look like? Has anyone tried to build such a thing? Are they allowed for deer hunting?
Yes, I am having a slow day.
lastdingo
Fri 12 Sep 2008 2015
Google for "WSG2000" (hkpro.com re-published an article about it iirc) to find a discussion (quite old, but modern) about the optimal bullet/cartridge for long-range sniping.
A somehow guided projectile would be feasible, and that would make a much larger calibre preferable (14.5-15.5mm probably, 20-25mm hasn't got enough MV).
I wouldn't choose a classic "sniper" approach for a vehicle-mounted system, though.
Btw, I am quite sure that Woodward didn't refer to a weapon system.
Paul in Saudi
Fri 12 Sep 2008 2018
No, no I am sure not.(Well, not that I know for sure.)
A guided bullet is on edge of cheating in my mind. But it is a sort of intellectual exercise.
shep854
Fri 12 Sep 2008 2128
If you think of 120mm fin as a "bullet"...
Doug97
Sat 13 Sep 2008 0209
Laser-Guided Bullets: Pentagon Pursuit Laser guided bullets fired from something like this:
Lampshade111
Sat 13 Sep 2008 2258
I have heard that the RWS on the Stryker when fitted with the .50 cal can be used as an impressive sniping weapon due to it's zoom capability and optics. I am not certain how much of this is true however.
Laser guided bullets? Why do the sniper's get all of the cool toys? I doubt this will ever be practical however. Yet if I am wrong I imagine such a weapon would fire some sort of guided flechette round rather than a more conventional design.
Tuccy
Sun 14 Sep 2008 0032
Vehicle-based sniper weapons? Simple

Sikkiyn
Sun 14 Sep 2008 0319
I like this one, better range, more bang....

Lampshade111
Sun 14 Sep 2008 0412
Why bother leaving the country at all?
lastdingo
Sun 14 Sep 2008 0512
There's also a private project of a small UAV using a rifle for sniping.
Christian Lupine
Sun 14 Sep 2008 0745
QUOTE(lastdingo @ Sun 14 Sep 2008 1012)

There's also a private project of a small UAV using a rifle for sniping.
Do you have any more information on this project? I wonder what type of accuracy is possible from a UAV?
lastdingo
Sun 14 Sep 2008 0758
It was in the danger room blog and elsewhere some months ago.
edit:
http://www.sagetechcorp.com/Main%20Menu/Pr...iper%20v001.pdf
Doug97
Tue 16 Sep 2008 0142
QUOTE(Lampshade111 @ Sat 13 Sep 2008 2258)

I have heard that the RWS on the Stryker when fitted with the .50 cal can be used as an impressive sniping weapon due to it's zoom capability and optics. I am not certain how much of this is true however.
Laser guided bullets? Why do the sniper's get all of the cool toys? I doubt this will ever be practical however. Yet if I am wrong I imagine such a weapon would fire some sort of guided flechette round rather than a more conventional design.
Yes, the IWS2000 is a smoothbore rifle firing saboted flechettes. At 15.2mm they're also larger than .50, so if they can fit the electronics into a .50 bullet they should be able to do it for the bigger round.
Tuccy
Tue 16 Sep 2008 0215
QUOTE(Doug97 @ Tue 16 Sep 2008 0842)

Yes, the IWS2000 is a smoothbore rifle firing saboted flechettes.
Isn't that a contradiction?
Doug97
Tue 16 Sep 2008 0949
QUOTE(Tuccy @ Tue 16 Sep 2008 0215)

Isn't that a contradiction?

You got me
Lampshade111
Wed 17 Sep 2008 0916
I wonder what your supposed to call that thing then?
Hans Engstrom
Wed 17 Sep 2008 0940
QUOTE(Lampshade111 @ Wed 17 Sep 2008 0916)

I wonder what your supposed to call that thing then?
Musket?
Chris Werb
Wed 17 Sep 2008 1227
QUOTE(Doug97 @ Tue 16 Sep 2008 1549)

You got me

There are also rifled shotguns, but the UK government considers them to be rifles, go figure!
Doug97
Thu 18 Sep 2008 0202
QUOTE(Lampshade111 @ Wed 17 Sep 2008 0916)

I wonder what your supposed to call that thing then?
I suppose just "gun" since that's what you call smoothbore tank guns ... it's not much smaller either.
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