Here are a few for starters:

1) Arjun's 120mm APFSDS round



2) Indian 125mm rounds



3) Polish 125mm APFSDS

Nice photos!
The Polish 125mm APFSDS round seems a new round.
It didn't looks like original Russian 125mm rounds.
Is it indigenous or cooperation?

Funny that a M1 and a M113 are on the Photo in the background, as neither uses such ammo.

The ammo is designed to be used on them

Because it is new one.


(that projectile on the left)



Developed by WITU, made by ZPS Pionki (former Pronit) with cooperation FPS Bolechowo. Data:
penetrator diameter: 25 mm
projectile mass: 7,6 kg
penetrator mass: 3,65 kg
muzzle velocity: 1650m/s
medium max. pressure of fumes *: about or less than 444 MPa
penetration at 2000 m: more than 500 mm RHAe

Previous round (at tankfan pages so called "Pronit APFSDS") probably used importet Israeli rods. But the new one is really new

The new round seems has a better penetration than Russian 3BM-32.
Its sabot shape looks specially,I like the style.

Good looking HE round. Wonder why the US cant manage to make one.

...two more rounds: the "Super 76" 76mm APFSDS version of the "Super 75" used by Taiwan for their M41Ds; and the US M900A1 APFSDS round.

How is the M900A1 different from the M900?
When did the M900A1 enter service?
Is the M900 and M900A1 really able to be used by the older tanks? I thought it needs an improved gun to handle the high pressure, which was only fitted to some late model Abrams with the 105mm gun.

Doesnt the penetator seem aint small?

This link lot of details about the Arjun Main Gun

http://www.drdo.com/pub/techfocus/feb02/arjun.htm

Some more details about Arjun FSAPDS

Length 944 mm

Weight 20.2 kg

Propellant charge weight 8.3kg Type NQ/M

Projectile weight 6.8kg

MV 1650m/s

L/D Ratio 18

Slipping band to reduce spin

Claimed performance is ability to defeat single, double, triple heavy NATO standard target at 5000m

105 mm ound - right, and a round unknown to me...

Whilst we're on Uranium sabotted penetrators I have a somewhat idle question. Do those nations which have a small OR non-existant nuclear industry save the expense of producing "depleted" uranium and simply produce rounds containing both U235 and U238? A lot of money saved and not a lot of extra radioactivity. WB

Speaking of tank ammo.....

I have just come to know the Spanish Army has decided on the Israeli IMI CL-3143 120mm APFSDS round versus the German DM53/63 series for the Leopardo 2E (and I suppose the Leopard 2A4 replacing the old DM23/DM33 currently in use).

Can anybody (Jim?) provide any info on this round? Looks like there aren`t lots of info available....

Israeli 120 mm rounds for Mk3 Baz

Does some body has the penetration data of Israeli 120 mm APFSDS rounds?

...and some more:

1) South Korean 120mm rounds
2) 115mm APFSDS penetrators scattered about
3) Ammo cache in Afghanistan

...Swiss 120mm training ammo.

So...

How much would a penetrator cost? Just to put on the mantel...


NOT DU! just a penetrator.


oh well, I probably couldn't afford much more than a cup of coffee right now.

Unknown non-Russian 125mm APFSDS round.

Type-86

Caliber: 100 mm
Muzzle velocity
Tungsten-alloy APFSDS: 1610 m/sec
Maximum range
HE: 13500 m
Point-blank range
Tungsten-alloy APFSDS: 1800m
HEAT: 1050m
Rate of fire: 8 ~ 10 rds/min
Penetration
Tungsten-alloy APFSDS(at the range of 1500 m): 150 mm/65°
HEAT: 120 mm/65°
Traverse: 52°
Elevation: -4°~ + 38°
Dimensions in traveling position
Length: 9520 mm
Width: 2188 mm
Height: 1838 mm
Total weight
In traveling position: 3660 kg
In firing position: 3610 kg
Weights of complete round
Tungsten-alloy APFSDS: 14.88 kg
Weight of projectile
Tungsten-alloy APFSDS: 5.30 kg






Type-56 85-mm

Caliber:85 mm
Muzzle velocity (HE shell, Full charge): 793 m/sec
Maximum range: 15,650 m
Point-black range(HE shell, Full charge): 950 m
Elevation: -7°~ + 35°
Traverse: 54°
Total weight in firing position: 1,725 kgs
Rate of fire: 15 ~ 20 rds/min
Road speed
On asphalt pavement: 60 km/hr
On country road: 35 km/hr
Cross county: 15 km/hr
Time to emplace: 40 ~ 60 sec

Experimental shaped-charge shell

Until today - this is the only projectile in the world with the tandem arrangement of two shaped charges, which ensures the addition of penetration from each of the charges. In the antitank missile [ATGM] there are no special problems associated with make a tandem warhead. There are vital differences between projectiles and rockets [PTUR] – firing acceleration load, the thickness of projectile housing, the overall size of the warhead and, as a result, fundamentally different conditions to the coordination of operations of two shaped charges.

The characteristics, given below in the table, do not have analogs among the projectiles of similar designation and class - until today this type of projectile simply did not exist. Suffice it to say that the development of this projectile to its logical and practical completion was conducted more than 10 years, were obtained more than 50 author's certificates of invention. Many scientific, technical, technological problems were solved. For the first time projectile was demonstrated on the exhibition of armaments in Abu- Dhabi in 1994.

The development of this unique projectile was executed in Institute of Applied Physics under the direct management of professor, academician OF ATN RF, premier state laureate of the USSR, General Director and Creator of this Institute V. F. Minina.

It is interesting to note that, until now, in the highly respected western publications such as the reference book “Jane's”, different releases have presented various explanations about the principles of the work of this projectile As far as we know, there does not exist in the world a similar development.

The experimental shaped-charge shell is intended for the defeat of the armored equipment equipped with the built-in and attached explosive reactive armor.

The projectile is compatible with the smooth-bore tank guns of the caliber of 125 mm (2A46M, 2A46M-1) and with systems of aiming and the automated loading.

The basic special feature of the projectile is the tandem arrangement of two main cumulative charges, which increases armor penetration in sequential effect. [NOTE: There is also a small tip charge to detonate explosive reactive armor.]

Fundamental tactical-technical characteristics

Projectile Caliber: 125mm
Projectile Mass: 19kg
Effective Firing Range: 1010m
Maximum Firing Range: 4000m
Penetration: 700-800mm RHAe
Penetration at 60 degrees from normal: 350-400mm RHAe
Armor penetration against armor enhanced by explosive reactive armor
Integrated ERA: 300-330mm RHAe
Add-On Modular ERA: 320-350mm RHAe

VERY interesting.

Polynege ammunition is a "Top Attack" 120mm Shell which comes as a compliment to APFSDS shells which are design to defeat MBT beyond the line of sight. ITs versatility would also allow it to engage other targets such as Light armoured vehicles, dismounted troops, infrastructures, and low/slow flying aerodynes.

Polynege will meet all of STANAG 4385 and MOPI AEP 26 requirements and will be able to fire from LeClerc, Abrams M1 series, Leopard 2, C1 Arietes and other tanks armed with 120mm smoothbore guns.

Total Weight: 28 Kgs
Total Length: 984mm
Projectile Weight: 20 Kgs
Muzzle Velocity: 600m/s - 800m/s
Cartridge Case Type: Combustible
TPA Type: Semi-Combustible
Range: > 2000m to <7000m
Penetration Effectiveness: All NATO Targets, and Specific Targets

That is rather interesting. Who is building it? Side firing EFP, it looks like. What is the seeker?

If it's not IR/EO which it obviously is not, then I suppose it has to be MMW.

What is odd is how the warhead appears to be side-firing EFP, but the trajectory would seem to end in about 45-degree dive onto the target.. which would mean the EFP slug would have a good chance of landing just a bit before the target?

good call on the MMW, it is about the only thing that makes sense, given the way the nose is drawn.

I also agree that the illustrated trajectory looks wrong for the apparent warhead. Maybe a bad illustration?

I had read that modern computer designed warheads and explosives allowed for high performance side firing EFP warheads.

fired from tank guns. I had forgotten as soon as I read it, that it was not a mortar round.

About an 8km range? The drawing must not be too accurate, unless it is under aerodynamic control from launch. the angle looks too steep for most tank guns to fire, particularly in a battle field environment.

Still, an interesting weapon.

It looks like it reaches 100m elevation after 300m of flight which is about 18degrees. IIRC most main guns can do about 20. I just cant figure why it would not use a standard HEAT warhead. Perhaps they have a second flyover mode for close range targets?

Regards,

Jay

That was what I assumed. Kind of like the midrange munition or whatever the FCS program is calling it.

GIAT, France.



Definitely. And I agree that it is inconsistent with the shown attack trajectory. Possible explanation is that there exists or used to exist a forward-firing warhead variant.

That's a CTA round developed by...well...CTA

Chekh round for 125, according to Suvorov

Czech? Maybe so called 125/EPpSv-97?

Ok here is a rarity - Serbian M93 125mm APFSDS. Now my guess is that it is actualy a copy of some other round but question is what round? Israely (probable)? France (also probable)?

http://elektron.tmf.bg.ac.yu/bojan/ammo/ta...3_apfsds_02.jpg

...Chinese 105mm HEAT.

Is the Chinese probe\spike somewhat longer than what we typically see on M456A1 – i.e. increased stand-off? I can't tell if there is a cover over the fuse or if the Chinese have added a bit of stand-off.

The length difference is actually a bit more pronounced than what's portrayed in my comparison. Moreover, in the China photo, the round is rotated somewhat more toward the photographer than the rotation in the M456A1 photo. The Chinese probe therefore looks a bit shorter than if it were orientated at the same angle as the M456A1 photo.

Regards
JD

Taiwanese TC84 105mm APFSDS.
weight:19.2kg
length:990mm
propellant:double-base M26
penetrator:W alloy
MV:1455m/s
penetration:450mm RHA @2000m

There will be 2 mode of flight for top attack, , one parallel to the ground, and another is plunging.

Vas ist? looks interesting, but data in addition to pictures would be good.

Looks like rocket boosted HE, and a Cannister sort of like Ahead, some others.

...Japanese 120mm ammo:

Then there are also two concave surfaces? Because the side-shooting one can hardly be used in diving attack profile...

Excellent images. Thanks for sharing.

Regards
JD

JM-33 is Janpanese copy of DM-33.

...here are a couple more: (a T-80U being "bombed-up" and a few 115mm penetrators in Afghanistan):

Some scarce non-Russian 125mm APFSDS round:
Indian Mk1 and Mk2

zoom in
French 125G1

Let's put some interesting APFSDS photo on this topic.